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home : news : local news Wednesday, April 27, 2005

4/18/2005 3:00:00 PM  Email this articlePrint this article 
‘Madison’ shines on stars
Scott and Willian Bindley
Jake Lloyd
Family values attracted actors to film
The writer, writer-director and five of the stars who were in town for the premiere last night of “Madison” had press conferences with groups of journalists in the City Council Chamber and the adjoining conference room at city hall earlier in the day. Each lasted about 20 minutes.

Here are highlights from the press conferences, where journalists from Madison, Seymour, Marion, Indianapolis, Louisville, Cincinnati and other cities asked questions. The Madison Courier was represented by editor Elliot Tompkin and reporter Peggy Vlerebome.

William Bindley, Scott Bindley

Brothers William and Scott Bindley were asked whether “Madison” would have come out sooner if it had been a studio film instead of being independent.

“Whenever you make an independent film, the good part about that is you generally have the creative freedom to tell the story you want,” William Bindley said. “You trade the creative freedom with knowing the film will come out. ...The odds are stacked 1,000-to-1 against it. It’s a good story (so they knew the movie would make it).”

Asked if “Madison” is like “Breaking Away” or “Days of Thunder,” Scott Bindley said, “I always felt being from Indiana, I always felt it was closer to “Breaking Away.’ We spent more time in Madison with the three main characters. It always just felt a little bit close to that because of the family aspect.”

Asked if a story “about rural Indiana” could sell coast to coast, William Bindley said: “I think good stories work everywhere. I don’t think this movie is made for boat racing fans any more than for people from small towns.”

About shooting the movie here: William Bindley said “Being able to shoot in Indiana was great. This was the only place to shoot. ...Look at this place. It’ s like a back lot. It’s so cute. It’s just a great town.”

Mark Fauser

Mark Fauser, who has lived in Marion for 10 years, writes movies and works at the nonprofit Community School of the Arts in Marion where 437 children learn dancing, acting, ceramics and theater. “It’s been a fun, touching experience for me.”

A movie that doesn’t go directly from production to viewing can carry a stigma. “Waking Up in Reno” was one such film. It “did not do very good” at the box office, he said. “There was a negative perception it’s been in the can for so long there must be something wrong with it. This movie (‘Madison’) is the opposite.”

“Madison,” he said, is about “the American dream.”

The Bindleys gave him the script to read about 10 years before the movie was made. He loved the part of goofy, clumsy Travis. “I said if you ever make this movie, would you give me this part. The casting director said this guy (Fauser) is not the picture of Travis.” But he got the part.

Fauser said that living in “the Bible belt,” he often hears people say, ‘Why don’t they make good movies. ...Well, here it is, folks.”

Independently produced “Madison” could have a huge impact on the U.S. filmmaking industry, he said. “Independent films are not as big as they used to be. ...This one film could turn everything around....This is family, family, family, and it’s the American dream.”

The movie isn’t just for Regatta fans, he said.

“I’m not a big boat racing ran, but I don’t think you have to be to enjoy this movie. ‘Madison’ is “a throwback to where community was community.”

He said his role was fictional, but someone told him they knew the person it was based on. In the role of Travis, he has difficulty handling tools and small parts, and the character who plays Madisonian Tony Steinhardt, who was on the crew for the 1971 race, gets cross at him. Fauser said that as a child, he didn’t know tools, so his clumsiness needed no practice. And the expression on his face in one of his encounters with Steinhardt, played by Brent Briscoe, also wasn’t practiced.

“When people yell at me I can’t think right,” Fauser said. When he made the facial expression, he was told to do it again for another shoot, and that was easy enough when Briscoe yelled at him. The second shot was used.

His current work, in addition to the children’s arts program, includes writing a tribute to Marion native James Dean for Warner Brothers.

He has a Web site, www.markfauser.com and an e-mail address, mfauser@indy.rr.com.

Chelcie Ross

Chelcie Ross’ character, Roger Epperson, is based on the late Bernie Little, owner of the rival Miss Budweiser.

“I don’t understand it,” Ross said in mock earnestness. “ I’m such a nice man. Out of about 45, 46 films, they let me play a nice guy maybe three times.”

His interview was interrupted by Bill Bindley, who came back into the room to say he and his brother support a bill in the General Assembly to give incentives for films shot in Indiana. Since “Madison,” they have worked in other states and Canada where incentives are offered. It’s important for Indiana and other states to offer incentives “It’s about keeping more work in the United States,” he said. In Indiana, he said, “I think it’s important because we want to come back.”

“Hoosiers,” “Rudy” and “Madison,” “are among many treasures” in his career, Chelcie said. They are about “my kind of people.”

He decided to take the part because he knows the Bindleys and he read the script “and it reminded me a good deal of ‘Hoosiers,’” he said, adding, “Hoosiers on the Water.”

“I’m a Christian man. I have raised a family in Chicago because I didn’t want to raise them in Los Angeles,” he said.

He chooses his work, he said. “My manager and my agent...find me scripts that have the values I subscribe to and try to live by,” he said.

Ross said Caviezel and “Passions” director Mel Gibson had large parts in getting “Madison” to the screen, Gibson because he put a trailer for “Madison” at the beginning of “Passion” more than a year ago and Caviezel because he asked Gibson to do so..

He said he has never known anyone to work harder to get a movie into theaters, saying it is “the most amazing” example of “tenacity and absolute hard-rock belief in a project....Bulldog tenacity that I’ve not personally experienced. ...This is wonderful.”

Ross said his voice got him his first part. As a student in 1962 at what is now Texas State University, he went over to the theater to help build sets, but when the director heard him talk, he was given a script to read and was cast in a part for the production.

One particular quality of “Madison” attracted him, Ross said. “The one that I speak to specifically, this is a story about a family with a lot of differences, a lot of pressures, an inability to make a living in the place they are, marital problems and there’s a boy involved. It’s about a family that works through those problems and stays together.”

He said he didn’t want to prepare for the role by talking to people about what kind of person Little was.

“I learned a long time ago it’s dangerous to meet a person you’re playing. ...We don’t always see ourselves the way others do,” he said.

Jake Lloyd

Jake Lloyd is 16 now. “I was thinking about driving up to the premiere,” he said, an impish smile on his face. He has moved to Carmel from Los Angeles. “I went back to L.A. and I felt that movie blood in me again,” he said.

Lloyd starred in the Star Wars movies before “Madison,” and will be at the Celebration 3. Asked if he does a lot of appearances for Star Wars, he said, “We’ll do anything for them. They’ve treated us so well. Their heart is in the right place.”

He recently resumed auditioning after being out of acting.

“I just needed a bit of a break so I could grow up on my own,” he said. Being in the spotlight all the time means “you make one mistake and it’s downhill from there,” Lloyd said.

Lloyd said he doesn’t remember much from his months in Madison for the filming, but enjoyed living here.

Asked if he had become frustrated because of the delays in releasing “Madison,” he said, “I stopped caring. I gave in. I stopped focusing on it. If this film comes out I don’t really care. ...What I really enjoy is that corroborative creativity. I love the fact that you can do that with film.”

Film is where his career will be, he said. “I love film. I love the creative process. I plan college for film” and to graduate with a degree in some aspect of film, “cinematography, producing, directing, writing, I don’t care. I’m so excited to get to do it again.”

“Even as an adult...I don’t want to have to take it so unbelievably seriously,” he said.

Lloyd’s name is known when he goes for auditions. “The name seems to carry a lot of weight. ...We don’t take advantage of that. We have had a lot of opportunities. ...We just want to have fun with it.”

His mother, Lisa Riley, who was co-producer of the movie, said Lloyd “was kind of upset with me” over the decision to get out of acting for a while. “I thought it would be better for him and our family if he took some time off, go to school,” she said.

She said it is difficult “going through puberty in front of millions of people.” Lloyd’s face turned red and he said, “Do you have to use that word? I tactfully used ‘growing up.’”

She amended her phrasing. “There’s a certain age where it would be nice not being in front of millions of people. Developmentally they have had a hard time focusing and (they) need to be in school.” Lloyd still was embarrassed.

Riley said she wanted her son to “see what it was like, daily life without acting, because he was so young when he started acting.”

Riley said there “was a huge, huge uproar” when she moved Lloyd from Los Angeles. “People were calling and saying, ‘You’re destroying his career.’ ...I’m raising a son.”

Lloyd said the money he was paid for his starring role in “Madison” is out of his reach, and he intends to keep it socked away.

“I can’t touch that money until I’m 18,” he said. ...”I think it will go to good use when I ...have children.”

He said he wouldn’t spend it on a luxury car because “I’m going to crash that thing sooner or later.” He said he is very proud of his car, a 1995 GMC Jimmy.

Later in the interview, he said, “I sound like a mama’s boy” but he and his mother “usually disagree.”

Lloyd said he is more interested in doing independent films, like “Madison” and the Star Wars series, than studio films. The freedom of an independent film is “so much more important than making the money off it,” he said. He said a choice between them doesn’t have to be made, because a couple of studio films can be done and then an independent film. “You do what you can to do what you want,” he said. “I just want to do what’s fun.”

Jim Caviezel

Jim Caviezel was driving home from filming “Frequency” in New York City when he got a telephone call about doing “X-men” as his next movie. “My wife said, ‘Forget about that movie’” and do “Madison” instead, he said.

“I take her opinion seriously,” he said. “It was a very good script. It takes a long time to find a good script.”

What sold him on it was the story, he said.

He recalled another Indiana movie that had influenced him, “Hoosiers.”

“I remember Siskel and Ebert in ‘86-’87, I was a senior in high school. They were talking about the movie.” Caviezel’s high school basketball team was at the state semifinals, and he and the other team members were shown the film for inspiration. “We believed we could beat them and we did,” Caviezel said. “The problem was, the team we played the next game saw the movie, too.

“It was hardly a basketball movie. It’s a film that has endured and always will. The same thing goes for this movie. The story is about us, you see, and American dreams. In this country you can make anything in your life.” And the movie was about the family. “It touched me,” he said.

Caviezel said the “Madison” story lines reminded him that even when there is a lot of sadness, “it’s important not to turn and walk away. They were down and out, and it (the boat) wasn’t going to work out.” It’s a movie “where the most valuable information came from the losses and the struggles. ...Without the losses and struggles there’s no character-building.”

“Madison” was filmed before “The Passions of the Christ,” which catapulted Caviezel into worldwide recognition and fame.

He got to talk twice with the recently deceased Pope John Paul II — once during filming and once after, and received a “well-done” compliment along with advice. “John Paul said, ‘You have a responsibility. You can make evil look good and good look evil’.” The pope also told him, Caviezel said, “Americans need to understand choice is not doing the things you want but having the freedom to do what you want.”

Caviezel flew over with President Bush and the official U.S. delegation to attended the pontiffs funeral.

One of his meetings with the pope lasted 10 minutes. A reporter remarked that “10 minutes with a pope is a long time.”

“Yeah,” Caviezel said. “That’s a lot of time with Jesus, too.”

Caviezel said he still suffers and always will with shoulder pain caused by hypothermia from being exposed to high, cold winds on the cross in the “Passions” movie. The hypothermia also gave him “big-time gray hairs,” he said.

Hypothermia, which is dangerous chilling of the body, caused Caviezel to become so cold that he could not get warm. A heating pad for his shoulder was so hot his wife could not sleep in the same bed, he said.

Up on the cross, Caviezel would get numb. “Once I started getting numb I couldn’t breathe,” he said.

He also was struck by lightning during filming of “Passion.”

The way that family was handled in “Madison” appealed to Caviezel. Some family films, he said, are “sugar-coated...sentimental hogwash,” he said. “The good ones are great but you don’t have to pander.” He places “Madison” in the good-ones category.

“When I look for material, I look for something that has redeemable value,” he said.

At the Sundance Film Festival, “Madison” was shown but wasn’t in competition. The Sundance audiences are “a ruthless group,” Caviezel said. But they gave “Madison” a standing ovation. The movie moves people, he said.

“It does something to your heart.”

Paul Dooley

The Bindley brothers loved Paul Dooley as the father in “Breaking Away,” so when they wrote “Madison” they knew who would play Mayor Vaughn.

“They wrote the part for me years before,” Dooley said.

He was born and grew up on the Ohio River in Parkersburg, W. Va., “so this feels like my hometown.”

“I love the atmosphere of any of these small towns, especially on the river.”

He has written a movie about growing up there, but hasn’t sold it.

Dooley said that getting ready for his role didn’t take long. “I wish that I could say that it took months of preparation,” he said. “After 50 years of acting...”


Reader Comments


Posted: Tuesday, April 19, 2005
Article comment by: Alan Stewart

Interesting piece. One correction that needs to be made, though. The movie Mr. Caviezel starred in was titled, "The Passion Of The Christ." Not "The Passions" ... it's singular. http://www.thepassionofthechrist.com/splash.htm

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